‘Watch out’: Warning after shock NBA rise… and why some still ‘miss the mark’ on Giddey

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Published 28.07.2023
‘Watch out’: Warning after shock NBA rise… and why some still ‘miss the mark’ on Giddey

Things weren’t presupposed to occur this quick for the Thunder, a younger workforce very a lot nonetheless discovering its id and projected to win simply 23.5 video games getting into final season.

But like sophomore guard Josh Giddey, this Oklahoma City squad is rapidly proving that age is only a quantity.

By the tip of January, the youngest workforce within the league — and second-youngest in NBA historical past solely to final 12 months’s Thunder squad — already had 24 wins on the board.

That included victories over title contenders Denver and Philadelphia, as OKC later beat Cleveland to cap off a formidable 9-6 run in the course of the first month of the brand new 12 months.

It additionally coincided with a standout stretch from Giddey, who averaged 18.8 factors, 7.6 rebounds and 6.4 assists throughout January to rapidly turn out to be a strolling triple-double menace each night time.

Of course, this Thunder workforce is about a lot extra than simply Giddey.

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Josh Giddey impressed in his second season in the NBA. (Photo by Alex Goodlett/Getty Images)
Josh Giddey impressed in his second season within the NBA. (Photo by Alex Goodlett/Getty Images)Source: Getty Images

It is about his backcourt accomplice and now All-Star teammate Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. The needle-mover. The selfless star on the verge of superstardom. The franchise cornerstone.

The first step in any rebuild is discovering that man, the one who has the potential to be the face of the franchise now and lengthy into the longer term. Oklahoma City has that in Gilgeous-Alexander.

Just as essential although is discovering the correct items to place round him.

Denver is tangible proof of that team-building course of paying off, rigorously establishing a championship-calibre roster headlined by probably the most complementary duo within the league.

It is a course of that’s already producing outcomes for Oklahoma City, drafting gamers with positional dimension, versatility, playmaking and high-level character traits.

With Chet Holmgren nonetheless to be added to the combo and a haul of draft picks at their disposal, the Thunder form as one of many NBA’s most intriguing groups in each the quick and long-term.

Chet Holmgren will lastly make his Thunder debut within the NBA subsequent season. Ian Maule/Getty Images/AFPSource: AFP

To break down how the Thunder obtained right here and what’s to return, foxsports.com.au sat down with The Athletic’s Andrew Schlecht, host of the Down to Dunk and OKC Dream Team podcasts.

He spoke to Oklahoma City’s success in accelerating its rebuild and what classes in team-building it may supply the remainder of the league.

On a extra particular be aware, he additionally touched on early evaluations of Giddey and the way the way in which the basketball neighborhood views him has modified, and in different methods stayed the identical.

But any dialogue of the rebuild at Oklahoma City at all times has to begin with one man specifically.

THE MASTERMIND AND BRILLIANT BLUEPRINT BEHIND OKC’S REBUILD

Calm and calculated. Two phrases that sum up not solely this roster facelift at OKC, however the manner of the mastermind behind this mission — common supervisor Sam Presti.

Presti has by no means been afraid to curve conventionality.

The number of Giddey with the sixth general choose was proof of that. The similar goes for the 138-minute marathon that was his exit interview in April earlier this 12 months.

Again, simply one other instance of how calm and calculated Presti is as he rigorously defined to the media and, by extension, Thunder followers his imaginative and prescient for Oklahoma City’s rise again to relevance.

Although Presti likes to speak in metaphors — so much — and on this occasion he in contrast it to climbing a mountain.

“When I think back to where we started in 2008, we were looking up a pretty steep mountain,” Presti opened, reflecting again on the Thunder’s inaugural season within the NBA.

“We didn’t have a team name. We had no uniforms. Some would argue we didn’t have much of a team at the time. We didn’t really have pens or pencils.

“But we climbed the mountain, we fought it for as long as we could, we stayed up there for a long time. We had a pretty good run of sustained success and now we’re facing another climb.”

That second climb although has not taken so long as most would have anticipated, fast-tracked by a team-building strategy that prioritises gamers with elite positional dimension and a excessive stage of ability.

That final half is especially essential as whereas a number of NBA groups have already began to embrace the transition to positionless basketball, that in itself will not be at all times assured to be an actual blueprint for fulfillment.

The experiment at Toronto speaks to that time, having left the Raptors with extra of an id disaster than a transparent path in the direction of contending for an additional title.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is the important thing piece within the Oklahoma City rebuild. Rob Carr/Getty Images/AFPSource: AFP

“It’s just easier to win in the NBA when you have big guards and wings that know how to fit into an offence and play with others,” Schlecht informed foxsports.com.au.

“You see it in Houston right now. Not to say Houston can’t be as successful as OKC is someday, but their road is a lot tougher because they have a bunch of guards that are just like bucket-getters. Jalen Green was just created in a lab to go get buckets on his own and it’s hard to play with those guys, especially when they’re young.

“It’s not hard to play with Josh Giddey. Josh Giddey makes the game easier for everybody. It’s not hard to play with Shai. Shai is one of the most humble stars that you would ever meet and he makes it really easy to play with him, the same with Jalen Williams and all those guys.
“… They’re all so malleable and also the Thunder have really dug their heels in with bringing in only really quality people with really good character. If you have a major character flaw when it comes to decision-making outside of basketball, you’re probably not going to play for the Thunder, no matter how talented you are.”

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What the Thunder are doing will not be standard, however inform Oklahoma City coach Mark Daigneault that and he’s extra prone to take it as a praise than the rest.

“We’re not interested in average and being conventional leads to average,” Daigneault mentioned at media day in September final 12 months.

“We’ve had a willingness from a strategic and team-building standpoint to chase excellence. We’re aggressive in our pursuit of our goals.”

And heading into the 2022-23 season, the Thunder wanted to be aggressive in the event that they have been going to make the playoffs. At least that’s what Lu Dort mentioned he thought the workforce was able to.

“I’m happy that’s where our head is,” Presti mentioned in response forward of final season.

“But I’m more interested in how we are doing that.”

Again, it’s all in regards to the course of and from the skin wanting in, the playoffs appeared a bridge too far — not that wins and losses have been the most important determiners for fulfillment at OKC anyway.

This was a younger squad that had completed the season prior with a 24-58 document whereas a severe damage to Holmgren threatened to destabilise that course of Presti had at all times harassed.

Jalen Williams emerged as a rising star within the NBA. (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)Source: Getty Images

Instead, new constructing blocks emerged within the rebuild as Jaylin Williams and Jalen Williams flashed their potential, with the latter ending runner-up in Rookie of the Year voting.

The Thunder could have fallen in need of making the playoffs however qualifying for the play-in match after which beating the Pelicans made final season a powerful success.

Oklahoma City finally bowed out of the postseason by the hands of Minnesota, outclassed and outworked in a complete 120-95 defeat within the workforce’s second play-in recreation.

But if something, the overall feeling after that loss was the clearest signal of simply how far this workforce had come.

It felt like there was a lot extra left on this workforce, as if celebrating making it that far was doing the other of what Daigneault had preached and accepting “average” as an alternative of chasing “excellence”.

The Thunder are constructing one thing particular below head coach Mark Daigneault. (Photo by Rob Carr/Getty Images)Source: Getty Images

“I think they certainly ended the season ahead of schedule,” Schlecht mentioned.

“This is not where they thought they would be… and they say things like, ‘Oh we really didn’t have a target or goal of what we wanted to do’. But certainly, I don’t think from a coaching and management standpoint that they really thought that they could get here this quickly.

“A lot of it is due to the kind of people that they have in the locker room for sure. They’re all pretty mature, they’re all pretty — as much as an NBA player can be — unselfish. They all really believe in what the Thunder are building, they’re all kind of pulling on the same rope. “That’s kind of how you get ahead of schedule in the league is that everybody’s pulling the same rope, everybody’s in lockstep with what the overarching plan is.”

That overarching plan, after all, comes again to Presti — who has lengthy promoted persistence as the important thing to Oklahoma City’s rebuild.

To him, accidents and setbacks are all a part of the journey again to the highest of the mountain and if anybody doesn’t consider that, Presti can simply level to final season’s NBA champions Denver.

He shouldn’t must anyway. After all, Gilgeous-Alexander would’ve requested a commerce a very long time in the past if he didn’t purchase into Presti’s imaginative and prescient. Now he’s about to enter his fifth season at OKC.

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“They believe in what Presti has built,” Schlecht added.

“They were kind of like, ‘OK, we’re betting on Sam a lot. What Sam has put in place, we’ve seen it be successful in the past’, and they kind of believe that they can trust him and his plan for their culture and plan for the team.

“If you just fit into it you’re going to have success, you’re going to make so much money and you’re going to win. They’re all bought in and the season was a huge success, a huge surprise to everybody.

“But this is the beginning. This is like step one of a multi-step process here.”

Or, as Presti would put it, the valley between that first and second mountain.

And as younger as this group could also be, any publicity to postseason basketball — even when only a few video games within the play-in match — will solely speed up their growth and shorten that climb.

Just take a look at Giddey, who nonetheless had his justifiable share of doubters getting into his sophomore season, solely to present up in an enormous means in his postseason debut with 31 factors towards the Pelicans.

Proof of the 20-year-old’s huge ceiling that has been exhausting to conceptualise at instances, as a participant that Schlecht believes is “unlike almost anybody we’ve ever seen” within the NBA.

‘I’VE NEVER SEEN IT’: WHY SOME PEOPLE ‘MISS THE MARK’ WITH GIDDEY

When Giddey first declared he can be getting into the 2021 NBA draft he was projected because the No. 13 prospect in ESPN’s rankings.

ESPN insider Adrian Wojnarowski even reported on the time that Giddey may nonetheless climb greater within the lottery, though being taken by Oklahoma City at No. 6 appeared a stretch.

That is strictly the way it performed out although, with the Thunder shaking up the draft as they reached for the Australian level guard. At least, it gave the impression to be a attain to some on the time.

For others, Giddey — a tall gifted playmaker with a complicated really feel for the sport — was an intriguing match alongside Gilgeous-Alexander with a energy of having the ability to make his teammates higher.

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Schlecht described it because the “boldest selection Presti has made in the draft” since taking Russell Westbrook with the fourth general choose in 2008 — and he was a fan from the beginning.

“Giddey is new age Thunder,” Schlecht wrote in a scouting report for The Athletic after the draft.
“Sam Presti has been building a team full of high IQ players that can all shoot, pass, and dribble. The 18-year-old certainly does two of those things, with passing and ball handling.”

Sure, there have been considerations over Giddey’s leap shot and general defence however the potential was there for the Australian to emerge as a key piece within the rebuild at Oklahoma City.

Giddey did simply that as he took dwelling Western Conference Rookie of the Month honours 4 months in a row on the way in which to writing his title in historical past throughout his first season within the NBA.

The query marks over his capturing nonetheless remained heading into Giddey’s sophomore season however for probably the most half he had already largely confirmed it wasn’t a attain to take him sixth general.

In truth, his choice is now wanting like yet one more masterstroke from Presti.

Josh Giddey smiles after being drafted by the Thunder. (Photo by Chris Marion/NBAE by way of Getty Images)Source: Supplied

For Schlecht, the assessments of Giddey each earlier than he stepped onto an NBA court docket and all through his profession so fare are reflective of a much bigger situation in participant analysis.

“I think largely people don’t know how to think about Josh for a lot of reasons,” Schlecht mentioned.

“One, he is so well-spoken that he doesn’t seem like he’s 19 or 20 this past year. He’s very polished. You can tell that he’s been trained. I know his parents played pro ball and so they kind of know that world and then he’s surrounded himself really well with people that know the business and know media too.

“And so he’s really good about saying the right things, not saying anything controversial. He’s never in the news for what he says and I think that’s extremely intentional on his part. It’s a good thing for the organisation and it’s a good thing for him.

“And then with his game overall people don’t know how to process it because he’s unlike almost anybody we’ve ever seen.

Josh Giddey is a unique talent. Kevork Djansezian/Getty Images/AFPSource: AFP

“If you really compare him to players that have played in the NBA in the past, you have to go to players like Jason Kidd and Magic Johnson when you’re making comps and you don’t really want to do that because it’s like, ‘Oh my gosh, is he really going to be like one of the best point guards of all time like those two?’.

“The answer could be yes but people don’t know how to think about his game. So oftentimes they just underrate him and they just talk about what he can’t do.”

And there have been loads of issues Giddey couldn’t do in keeping with that notorious scouting report.

“He’s not that athletic compared to other guys, there’s a lot of criticism that he’s not a great defender, he’s going to get targeted in the playoffs,” Schlecht mentioned.

“People tend to gravitate there because they know how to talk about those kinds of players.

“But with a 6-foot-8 point guard who can score, people kind of put that on the backburner when they try to talk about him, like the dude can really score. One of the best rebounding guards in the league, one of the best passers at 6-foot-8.

“I think people really miss the mark in evaluating him. I think people just really are bad at evaluating him, just because there’s not a great comp for him.

“Watching Shai, watching JDub [Jalen Williams], watching those other guys is like, ‘Oh yeah, I’ve seen this before, I know this story’. Those are sort of what a star guard or forwards looks like.

“Then you watch Josh and it’s like, ‘I’ve never seen it’. People were really late to get on the Jokic train because it’s like, ‘I’ve never seen a center that’s this kind of like doughy but can pass like a maniac and can do all these things’… but early on people were criticising his defence, criticising his athleticism, it’s like we don’t know what to do with him.

“I think it’s similar stuff with Josh. It’s like people don’t know how to think about the guy.”

Josh Giddey continues to defy expectations. (Photo by Chris Coduto/Getty Images)Source: Getty Images

‘IN MY OWN HEAD’: HOW GIDDEY TOOK HIS GAME TO ANOTHER LEVEL

Both Giddey and Cade Cunningham, the primary general choose within the 2021 draft, represented the beginning of a brand new wave on the level guard place within the NBA.

Like Giddey, Cunningham’s versatility was additionally one among his greatest weapons getting into the league as a do-it-all guard with a 6-foot-8 body that allowed him to see above the defence.

It was solely final season although that Giddey began to essentially use his dimension to his benefit, averaging 11.5 factors within the paint in comparison with 7.4 in his rookie marketing campaign.

Giddey additionally tried extra photographs from contained in the restricted space (37.7 per cent of his FGs versus 27.3 per cent) whereas bettering his ending (62.5 per cent versus 57.9 per cent) near the basket.

“I spent a lot of time last off-season just lifting and getting stronger so I think trying to use that to my advantage,” the Australian mentioned at his exit interview earlier this 12 months.

“Obviously being a bigger guard, trying to get into the paint and make plays – whether that is score, kick the ball out – just making the right read.

“I started to figure out that I’m typically going to be a lot bigger than the guys that are guarding me so I’m trying to use that to my advantage.”

While Giddey has at all times been identified for his flashy playmaking, final season noticed the 20-year-old actually diversify his offence by placing strain on the rim and bettering his leap shot.

It has by no means been about changing into a prolific 3-point shooter anyway, with Giddey simply needing to earn sufficient of the opposition’s respect to open up driving lanes and his offence generally.

Giddey took an enormous step in the direction of doing simply that this previous season, going 32.5 per cent from deep below the steerage of Oklahoma City’s offseason addition — capturing guru Chip Engelland.

That was up from 26.3 per cent in his rookie season and after an early capturing hunch which noticed Giddey make simply 23.8 per cent of his 3-point makes an attempt in November final 12 months.

“I think when you try change something you’ve been doing your entire life it’s like breaking out of any bad habit, they don’t happen quick,” Giddey mentioned of his capturing struggles.

“It takes time. For me at the start it was frustrating because I wanted the results straight away but you have to understand when you break out of a habit it takes time, it doesn’t work that way that it clicks overnight.

Josh Giddey improved his shot over time. (Photo by David Berding/Getty Images)Source: Getty Images

“Everything will be different and I think for me the early days with Chip [Engelland] and Mike [Daigneault], even when I was in California in the summer, I was getting so worried about the results and the outcome right there that it was distracting me from the process and how long those type of things take.

“Even earlier in the season, I really struggled to shoot the ball. I was in my own head. Chip and Mike kept reinforcing that these things take time and I think that once I learned that and stopped worrying about the immediate result and thinking more long-term in the outcomes from the process, that’s when a switch really flipped and things headed in a better direction for me.”

Giddey completed the 2022-23 season averaging 16.6 factors, 7.9 rebounds and 6.2 assists whereas additionally rising extra snug enjoying off the ball alongside backcourt accomplice Gilgeous-Alexander.

For his All-Star teammate, the most effective a part of Giddey’s sophomore season was the way in which he was capable of enhance his recreation regardless of the elevated consideration from opposition defences.

“A lot of guys get better, come back and then you’re the new guy, then teams figure you out and you’re a little bit stagnant but for him to get better throughout the season and continue to improve his game is very impressive,” Gilgeous-Alexander mentioned.

“Right now he is a world better than he was in the summertime and the year before and I hope and am pretty sure he will continue that growth because the kid works hard.”

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And for all of Giddey’s playmaking sorcery, it was that tough work and hustle that stood out to Presti when he was requested for a spotlight second from the Australian’s second season within the NBA.

“There’s one play that stuck out to me with him this year and I know when anyone talks about him it’s going to be some wizard pass but it’s not,” Presti mentioned.

Instead, the Thunder GM recalled a single rebound from Oklahoma City’s 123-119 extra time win over the Chicago Bulls.

“Big possession, huge possession. He holds off Pat Williams and gets the ball and I think we may have got fouled and got to the free throw line after that to close the game out,” Presti mentioned.

“But that rebound was a winning rebound. That was a free-for-all play and that was a nasty play. He held him off.

“Those are the plays that serve the game, that you make but not a lot of people will probably write about them or tweet about them or highlight them.

“That was a big play. I was impressed by that. Just the strength to be able to do that and to understand the importance of that possession and come through like that.”

Josh Giddey celebrates the win towards the Chicago Bulls. (Photo by Michael Reaves/Getty Images)Source: Getty Images

GIDDEY’S POSTSEASON STATEMENT… AND A ‘GLIMPSE’ INTO THE FUTURE

It was simply one of many many sides to Giddey’s recreation that makes him such a tantalising expertise, and the Australian confirmed one other facet completely in his postseason debut towards the Pelicans.

For probably the most half Giddey has at all times been comparatively understated and measured in his post-game press conferences, a “PR director’s dream” as Schlecht put it.

On the court docket although he performs with a youthful swagger and confidence not too dissimilar to the way in which he approaches social media, whereas nonetheless making the selfless performs. The proper performs.

But when Giddey copped a low blow from Josh Richardson throughout Oklahoma City’s play-in recreation towards New Orleans, the 20-year-old didn’t simply let himself be pushed round.

“I think that will continue to manifest itself as he gets more confident on the court,” Schlecht mentioned.

“We saw Josh Richardson hit him below the belt in that first game. You got to kind of see him.

“It was like, ‘Oh there he is’, because I remember I watched a tonne of his games when he played for Adelaide and boy did he just have like this fire about him that I was like, ‘Oh I really like this guy. He’s really fun. He thinks he’s the man, like look at him out there. He’s 18 years old playing with all these men but he thinks he is the man. Like this is really cool’. “Then he didn’t show it a whole lot in his rookie season and some of that started to come back out a little bit here.”

Josh Giddey shoots towards Jonas Valanciunas and Trey Murphy III. Jonathan Bachman/Getty Images/AFPSource: AFP

It was only one second of many in that recreation towards the Pelicans the place Giddey didn’t draw back from the highlight and strain that got here in enjoying in entrance of a nationwide TV viewers.

Instead, Giddey and the Thunder proved what these near the workforce had already identified for therefore lengthy.

That this 20-year-old out of Australia was a lot greater than only a gifted passer and that Oklahoma City was a lot greater than only a workforce on the rise.

This was already a aggressive workforce. A workforce that was already making some noise and that noise will solely get louder as this workforce grows collectively within the subsequent couple of years.

“I thought it was a really big deal,” Schlecht mentioned of Giddey’s 31-point recreation towards the Pelicans.

‘That game got a lot of eyes… I think it’s similar to a glimpse into the way forward for what this man’s going to do with regards to being in a playoff sequence.

“Not that he’ll average 30 points but that he’s not afraid, that he wants the moment. There’s guys that just shrink from the moment a little bit.

“I always heard from people that knew Josh well that he was like a big-game type of guy and that was really his first big game. I think the sky is the limit with him if he’s already this good.”

Josh Giddey took an enormous leap in his second 12 months. Rob Carr/Getty Images/AFPSource: AFP

Statement video games just like the one towards New Orleans will solely make Giddey extra well-liked with a fanbase that rapidly latched onto the Australian guard when he was first drafted.

Gilgeous-Alexander should still be Oklahoma City’s greatest participant whereas Lu Dort’s exhausting work and hustle have at all times made him a fan favorite. But Giddey?

“Fans love him,” Schlecht mentioned.

“I would say that young fans like him the best of anybody. I have an 11-year-old son and an eight-year-old son and Josh is their favorite player, like by far. That’s the same with all of their friends.

“If they’re talking about the Thunder it’s always Giddey, which is really interesting just because Shai is by far the best player but for whatever reason they really gravitate toward Josh.”

Quite a lot of that in all probability goes again to Giddey’s on-line presence, with the Australian boasting over 1.4 million followers throughout TikTook, Instagram and Twitter.

Gilgeous-Alexander has extra followers on Instagram alone (2.1 million) however it’s TikTook specifically the place Giddey’s character shines by way of, permitting him to interrupt down the partitions between fan and athlete.

“Definitely the social media stuff people pick up on and think he’s really funny and that’s where you can kind of see his age shine through,” added Schlecht.

“Because you watch him on the court, you listen to impress conferences, you’re like, ‘Oh man’, you would never know that he’s 20 years old and then you see him on social media and it’s like, ‘Oh okay, there’s the 20 year old, that’s where he is’.

“I know that anytime that you can humanise any of these guys, it just makes them more likeable and attaches them to the fanbase a lot more.”

Giddey is well-liked with younger basketball gamers. Picture Glenn HampsonSource: News Corp Australia

THE NEXT CHALLENGE FOR OKC … NOW A TEAM TO ‘WATCH OUT’ FOR

According to Schlecht, Giddey “probably had the most underrated season of anybody in the league this past year”.

“Just because people had a hard time conceptualising his game moving forward,” he added.

But it’s now not exhausting to see how Giddey, along with his positional dimension, versatility and powerful basketball IQ, will proceed to develop as a key piece of the younger core at Oklahoma City.

There continues to be loads of room to construct round that core too because the Thunder personal 14 first-round picks by way of to the 2029 NBA draft.

Oklahoma City had the tenth and fiftieth picks in Friday’s draft, buying and selling as much as land Kentucky guard Cason Wallace earlier than utilizing its second and last choose on Keyontae Johnson.

Add in a wholesome Holmgren and the Thunder have turn out to be not simply an intriguing workforce of the longer term however one of the fascinating within the NBA proper now.

“The past couple years, I’ll tell you, not many people reached out to me from national media asking me anything about the Thunder,” Schlecht mentioned.

“In this past year a lot more guys reached out just even to ask questions or to have me on their shows and stuff like that, which just shows that people are starting to pay attention to the Thunder again.

“I think they’ve definitely taken notice and there’s going to be some expectations starting next year with them and we’ll see how they handle it. They’re going to be a lot different with Chet on the court.”

Josh Giddey, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Chet Holmgren.Source: FOX SPORTS

In Holmgren, the Thunder lastly have an elite rim protector with the mixture of dimension and ability that also needs to make him a seamless match within the Oklahoma City offence.

The problem now shall be to stay affected person in following Presti’s plan whereas additionally managing exterior expectations, which can now be a lot greater than ever after final season’s success.

Forget the discuss tanking, not that the Thunder have been doing that for lengthy anyway.

This workforce is on the rise and will very quickly be a severe contender. The total NBA is on alert too.

“People are going to have to watch out for that team,” Mark Tatum, Deputy Commisssioner of the NBA, mentioned lately to worldwide media together with foxsports.com.au.

“They overachieved, right? They’re so young, they’re still developing and I don’t think people really thought that they had a chance this year.

“.. I think you see a similar thing now with Sacramento with De’Aaron Fox and Sabonis and that young team of Sacramento, who pushed Golden State to the brink. They’re going to be in the playoffs on a regular basis going forward.

“I think Oklahoma City has the talent that will put them in the playoffs and [they will] be a threat to other teams going forward.”